"Subway 5: Doritos Footlong Nachos with Toni Charline Ramos" is Episode 492 of Doughboys, hosted by Nick Wiger and Mike Mitchell. "Subway 5: Doritos Footlong Nachos with Toni Charline Ramos" was released on April 24, 2025.
"Tomorrow… with Toni Charline Ramos" - @doughboys.bsky.social
Synopsis[]
Toni Charline Ramos (@tonicharline) joins the 'boys to talk music, Max shows, and Mexico before a review of Subway's new Footlong Doritos Nachos. Plus, another edition of Snack or Wack.
Nick's intro[]
In 1911, California passed a state constitutional amendment allowing citizens to vote on ballot initiatives — an opportunity to legislate from the voting booth. Thus began America’s most lasting and consequential experiment with direct democracy — an experiment that, over a century later, still remains controversial. The ballot initiative process has led to regressive populist victories like 1994’s Proposition 187, a draconian anti-immigrant measure; 2008’s Proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriage — ironically passed the same year Californians overwhelming voted Barack Obama for President; and most disastrously, 1987’s Proposition 13, which, in limiting property taxes on rich homeowners, both hamstrung state revenues and throttled the housing supply.
But Californians have also united to advance social and economic progress not delivered by the state legislature: 1914’s Proposition 10 helped ensure voting rights by banning poll taxes; 2016’s Proposition 64 legalized marijuana, a boon to the emerging job classification of podcast producer; and 1986’s Proposition 65 required corporations to provide written notification of the presence of dangerous chemicals. The State of California’s own description reads, “Proposition 65 requires businesses to provide warnings to Californians about significant exposures to chemicals that cause cancer, birth defects, or other reproductive harm."
And while you’d be unsurprised to see a legally mandated Proposition 65 notice affixed to the window of a new electric vehicle or on the wall of a dry cleaners, you might be a bit disturbed that one fast-food chain displays a Prop 65 warning on the order confirmation screen of its own app — despite a slogan that encourages diners to “eat fresh.” The ubiquitous sandwich chain in question has endured myriad controversies, from its so-called chicken being exposed as only 50% meat to its human mascot being outed as a child pornographer.
But it saw mild success with a 2024 cross-branded footlong gimmick menu, and is now back to the same playbook this year by collaborating with a Frito-Lay varietal best known for its association with Taco Bell.
But can this latest reconfiguration of existing ingredients be enough to entice consumers to return to this declining sandwich shop? Either way, it better taste pretty fucking good, because you’re apparently ingesting enough toxic chemicals to require legal notification.
This week on Doughboys… we return, once again, to Subway, for the Doritos Footlong Nachos.
Fork rating[]
This is the fifth visit to Subway for an official review, though that number does not count the time they focused on Subway's breakfast menu.
The first time was in 2015, when Nick gave it 2 forks and Mitch 3. They returned four years later and Nick gave it 3 forks and Mitch 3.25. In 2021, Nick gave it 2.5 and Mitch 3.25. Then in 2022, they tried Subway's Breakfast menu and Nick hated it (2.25 forks) but somehow Mitch loved it (4.25 forks). They returned to the main menu in 2024, but also to try the Footlong Sides, and the scores bottomed out as Nick gave 1.5 forks and Mitch 2.25.
In between all this, Subway was briefly a part of Pie Noon, losing the Bake Off, and then actually won a round in Hero's Journey: Sub-Optimal.
| guest / host | ordered | rating |
|---|---|---|
| Nick Wiger | Hot Honey Pepperoni Sandwich | 1 fork |
| Mike Mitchell |
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1 fork |
| Toni Charline Ramos | Doritos Footlong Nachos
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2 forks |
| shared |
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Mitch and Toni kind of enjoyed the Nachos (Mitch gave them 3.5 forks) and Nick found them passable, but everyone did find them sort of unexciting.
With these scores, Subway finally joins the Broken Plate Club.
Mac or Wac[]
In Snack or Wack, the Doughboys have a snack and rate it either 'snack' or 'wack.'
For this episode, they try Rowe's macaroons, which are apparently made by Mitch's old agent. Their website is here.
They enjoyed all the flavors.
| guest / host | Milk Chocolate | White Chocolate | Dark Chocolate | Peanut Butter |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nick Wiger | Snack | Snack | Snack (fave) | - |
| Mike Mitchell | Snack | Snack | Snack | Snack (fave) |
| Toni Charline Ramos | Snack | Snack | Snack | Snack |
Roast Spoonman[]
My Love For You Is Deep, But the Devil Loves Me Deeper (a film by Casey Donahue)
| “ | My Love for You is Deep Dish, but the Deviled Eggs Love Me Deeper | ” |
–Sam from Carlsberg | ||
Mike Mitchell Presents Def Poetry (on HBO)[]
| “ |
Trump pushing his power to the max |
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Mike Mitchell Presents Def Tuna Rap[]
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Swimming in the ocean in the sea |
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Mount Elementmore[]
| guest / host | top four elements |
|---|---|
| Nick Wiger |
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| Mike Mitchell |
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The Feedbag[]
| “ | Are there any discontinued flavors or fads you still crave? | ” |
–Ben | ||
| guest / host | discontinued foods they miss |
|---|---|
| Nick Wiger |
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| Mike Mitchell |
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Quotes[]
| “ | Mitch: Was that a 'ragtime song'? Nick: Yea, it was. Scott Joplin... the King of Ragtime. |
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–Doughboys Rag | ||
| “ | What's your favorite hard drug? Mine's Viagra. *wink* | ” |
–Mike Mitchell | ||
| “ | Mitch: I don't think the Neanderthal Mitchells ate bugs. Toni: Well... they're your grandparents. You can still ask them, right? |
” |
–The Mitchells | ||
Drops[]
| reference | notes |
|---|---|
| "Maple Leaf Rag" by Scott Joplin | in Mitch's drop (by Chris) |
Related Episodes[]
| Subway episodes | Toni Charline Ramos episodes |
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